User talk:FanOfAniManga

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Beelzebub by Tamura Ryuuhei Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Template:Chapter Infobox page. If you need help, and there are no local admins here, you may want to visit the forums on the Community Central Wiki. You can also check our Staff blog to keep up-to-date with the latest news and events around Wikia. Happy editing, Sarah Manley(help forum | blog)

adopting
Hi. Great job on the wiki so far. I have granted you admin and bureaucrat rights, so you should be able to implement the sync queue. Good luck and have fun! -- Wendy (talk) 02:27, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oga
Hi I have been a wikia user for quite some tiome and have been doing edits fr a while too..

I recently made a few edits to the Oga page with detailed plot summaries (written by me) and a few pictures, and my user can no longer edit pages.

I was wondering if I was reported for anything. kind of a "let me know" if I did anything wrong :( I have many edits with this account and so i was wondering...

Hope you respond!

Psyren
Thanks for the welcome but are u also reading Psyren? It's made by Ryuhei Tamuras teacher. Its really cool.
 * I don't know nothing about nothing on this xD so i'll just try my best not to screw anything up and i do not understand why Psyren, Beelzebub and lots of other manga aren't as popular as Naruto but much better, one last thing do you know how many people are contributing to this page? P.s from Iceland , u? Lazymex 15:38, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thx for the pick me up, those are some really good news about the readership. What other manga/anime do u like? I personal like Bleach and Fairy Tail , i also read Death Note and some other i can't remember. Lazymex 18:31, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Hello, about Toujou and Kunieda debut
I want to talk about the fact that Toujou and Kunieda real manga debut happens in chapters 15 and 10 respectively, I don't deny they are mentioned in chapter 6, and yeah, I saw page 15 of chapter 6, it is the same as the one the wikia has on the tohoshinki page. But my point here, is that they are only mentioned, the great proof is that they only appear as silhouettes of their backs in Natsume and Shiroyama memories. That's not enough to be considerate an appearance (instead of a mention) nor a debut, which is the first time we see the character in the official time and space of the series. In chapter 6 Himekawa, Kunieda and Toujou are simply mentioned by Natsume and Shiroyama, and to be more illustrated about them, we see their silhouettes, yet later in the chapter we see the real Himekawa, and by that him making his full debut.

I will use other series as examples, in Naruto, Itachi's debut happens in chapter 139, but before that he is constantly mentioned and constantly seen in Sasuke memories. The same thing happens with Pain, we constantly see him as silhouettes, but the first we oficially see him, is on chapter 372, if memory serves, which is considered his full debut.

With this that I just said, we can even said that the real full debut of Toujou happens in chapter 23, Entry!!, where is the first time we saw his face.

Anyway, I also wanted to thanks for the chance of discussion about the fact. That's the real only way of settling this kind of things.


 * To the reader, any silhouette is technically an appearance within the manga series, not just physical appearances. That's why I wanted to follow the order of the manga series rather than the time and space of the plot because these "first appearances" within the infoboxes were meant to be described based on the order of the series, not its plot.


 * In the case of Kunieda and Tojo, their first ever appearances (as silhouettes) within the manga series trumps their first physical appearances by order. FOMA (talk) 15:18, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * Even if what you say its teorically truth, and the mention of them in silhouettes, counts as an appearance and not a mention, let me remind you that what we are talking about here in the first place is the debut of Kunieda and Toujou and not their first appearances (The infoboxes says clearly "Manga Debut" and not "First Appearance in the Manga"). The "Debut" of a character is the first time we see the character doing something for the progress of the story and plot, with that said, this "appearances", has nothing to do with them doing something in the story, because the ones making something for the plot are Natsume and Shiroyama, illustrating the members of the Tohoshinki without reveling their true faces.


 * So, yeah, I don't deny that Chapter 6 can be their official first appearance in the series, but that doesn't mean it's also their official debut as characters of Beelzebub. The first time Kunieda does something for the plot is in chapter 10 and Toujou, well, we can discuss that it could be chapter 15 or 23, but I think that's for another time.


 * My bad, I didn't check the infoboxes. Still, I think it'd be more appropriate to define a "debut" as a first appearance within the series, not the storyline which excludes illustrations by fictional characters as you put it. The description of "debut" should focus more on the perspective of the readers, so I don't think it should matter if their first appearances are physical or not to count them as debuts. Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (TrOjAnHoRsEx 10:36, November 14, 2011 (UTC)). FOMA (talk) 17:20, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * The thing is that you can't ignore the storyline, after all without it there will be no series. Continuing what you said about the perspective of the readers, the problem is that in my perspective, as a reader, remains in the storyline, then for me, I do agree that the debut is the first time I see the character doing something for the progress of the plot. If we take the definition of debut "a person's first appearance in a capacity or role" (taken from wordreference), then in their appearance in Chapter 6 they still have no role in the plot, as the appearance of their silhouettes, along with Kanzaki and the silhouette of Himekawa serves as an introduction to the Tohoshinki as an organization.


 * Sorry, I'm still relatively new to the commands of the wikias and similars, but I think I signed right this time 190.22.135.46 18:02, February 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * But what if there's an imaginary character that persists in someone's mind and never has a role in the storyline? Is it appropriate to call no debut on that character?


 * On another note, if you're Kentaru Z (and I'm pretty sure you are), how come you never log in when you talk to me? I just find it strange, that's all. And yes, you signed correctly. FOMA (talk) 22:08, February 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * You said it there yourself FOMA (Don't mind being called FOMA, right?), "an imaginary character that persists in someone's mind", the role of that character is that, by thus, that kind of character represents an exception (as there is an exception to every rule) as they participate in the storyline but in a particular way (Not directly interfering in the progress of the plot but helping in the development of it), take for example Inner-Sakura from Naruto (although, if memory serves, I think this character does participate at one point during the chunin's exam, when Ino possesses Sakura, but that again, was like a progress of the own character of Inner Sakura based on all the planting of her that was seeded before that particual crucial moment) and Dr. T from Slam Dunk (I know he's author, but he's still an official character in the series), both of them serves the plot in a particular way, like explaining things or giving comic-relief, even insight of the characters. And by thus, they do have their debuts. Another example are Akira Kogami and Minoru Shiraishi from Lucky Star, although they appear sometimes in the normal series, their true role is the Lucky Channel.


 * For personal issues (that I will gladly explain when the right time came), I prefer to keep my user identity secret for the time being, sorry if this is an inconvenient.190.22.254.20 00:22, February 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, I was planning on categorizing the headings in the infobox, with a "First Appearance" heading above the debut headings anyways, like in the Bleach Wiki character infoboxes. FOMA (talk) 17:10, February 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, the Bleach Wiki is a very good and professional wikia. And we use the same kind of infoboxes here in the Beelzebub wiki, so it may actually look good. But the thing is that we still haven't resolve our discussion about Toujou's and Kunieda's Debut. And I have seen that the Bleach Wiki (just like the Naruto Wiki) does share my view of when a character debuts. And also it seems that for both wikias, it does matter if their first appearances were physical or not in the storyline to count them as a "first appearance" or not (Something I also share with them). So, you will still maintain that Toujou and Kunieda Debuts happens in chapter 6? I have given you a lot of arguments about why their debut happens in chapter 10 (Kunieda) and chapter 15 (Toujou), and you have also gived me arguments back, but in your last reply, you didn't gave any argument to kept saying that it was in another chapter.


 * I'm sure all this discussion is starting to pester you, and I'm sorry if that's the case. I respect your work, because I can see how serious you are in it. You are not willing to add information which is based only in speculations, and that's exactly why I didn't kept discussing about calling the Great Demon King "Beelzebub III" in his infobox, or translate Berubō as Baby Beel, because you were right in those two. But just as I told you in the Great Demon King talk, all this discussions I started them just because I also want this wikia to be as professional and good as the Naruto and Bleach Wikis. And all this little details are the ones that will make the true difference with the others unprofessional wikis and eventually transform the Beelzebub Wiki into a great and professional wikia. 190.22.222.103 20:30, February 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I think as of now, you've convinced me enough to let you go on with what you've proposed here. Keep in mind though, I may have left debuts in other characters infoboxes based on my old system. Do feel free to change them by the new system you've proposed.


 * Also, I really appreciate how far you're willing to go to make this Wiki professional. I feel privileged to find someone willing to go the extra mile to make this Wiki outstanding because there aren't many people like you out here in the Wikia universe. --FOMA (Talk) 01:22, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then, with this discussion finished, I think its safe to reveal myself, indeed I was Kentaru Z (You can call me Kentaru Z or Kentaru), but I prefered to keep myself anonymous because of previous bad experiences I had with admins. It was nothing personal against you, but it was a really bad experience I suffered in another wikia, that was so unprofessional to leave tons of pages filled with fan speculated information (Not even marked as speculations or even trivia, but as real information), so, I started to correct them and the admin blocked me, accusing me of vandalism, and whenever I tried to discuss my block, he deleted my messages. (At that time I didn't knew how to resolve a problem like that so I just surrendered...) After I saw we were going to have to discuss this matter, I prefered to sign out (to keep my account safe) and stay anonymous for the time being, but seeing that you are willing to talk this matters I'm happy to say that I can trust admins again and I don't need to hide my identity anymore.


 * So, I will do my best to help improve the wikia as much as I can, Commander FOMA (I hope you don't mind being called that...), and I will start by checking the debuts of all the characters. Also I wanted to talk about another subject of the wikia (more of a esthetic matter related to the infoboxes, I don't know if to say it here, or start a new talk, but I will wait your answer, for now, let's get to work!!!). Kentaru Z 02:41, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Anime on Twitter
Hello, I'm Kate from the Wikia Content team. We are trying to create a WikiaAnime Twitter group, where all of the amazing wikis can come together and share their most exciting information, and hopefully get a lot of new users! To join, all you need to do is post this Twitter button and tweet list on your main page.



Then you can visit the Anime Twitter Suggestions Page and post tweets you'd like to see, with links back to your wiki.

Please share this with your other members and admins and see if it's something they'd be interested in joining! Let me know if you have any questions, and we hope to see you there! Kate.moon 04:00, February 17, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I put the Twitter button on the mainpage. It's been doing really well on other anime wikis and I hope this will help you guys get more buzz and traffic that you deserve! The background skin is awesome ;) Kate.moon 04:07, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

I appreciate the support! Both manga and anime can be/and are featured on Anime Twitter! I'd be happy to put it up on any wiki (or you can do it yourself using the code) that's manga or anime-related. And let me know if you'd like to tweet something specific about any of the wikis that you're an admin in. Leave a message and I'll do it for you :) Kate.moon 06:06, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I put the Twitter button on your talk pages. It's been updated so that it shows up now. Thanks for doing that! Let me know if you'd like me to tweet anything! I try to basically promote any interesting or unique articles and news pertaining to anime/manga wikis. Kate.moon 18:06, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Kunieda's grandad
There are two Kunieda's Grandfather pages (my fault, sorry) shouldn't one be deleted? --Masgrande 12:10, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Kaoru and Ryouko
Hey, thanks for editing the Red Tails page, but where did you get Kaoru's last name? I never saw Ryoko and Kaoru's last names, but they have one and they don't look wrong at all! I'm curious, thanks, since the Red Tails are my favourite group. 124.182.149.68 02:36, March 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey there! It looks like you didn't see my first message since your IP changed, so I'm re-posting it here:
 * It was actually me who added in their names. I found their names on the Japanese Wikipedia Beelzebub page here. I'm guessing like a few other characters throughout the series, their bios (which include their full names) were included in some of the newly released volumes. --FOMA (Talk) 02:39, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for informing me! I guess it must have been apart of an extra from one of the volumes or something, I'll go looking for it! Thanks again!


 * No problem! ^_^ --FOMA (Talk) 10:14, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Crunchyroll Videos
Hey! We wanted to let you know about a really great new feature for Beelzebub Wiki! Crunchyroll and Wikia Anime have partnered up and we now have the ability to watch Beelzebub videos from CR right on the wiki. Is this something you'd be interested in trying out? We can enable videos here and then if you decide you don't want them later on we can disable them. We wanted to offer you this exciting opportunity! Let me know if you have any questions! Kate.moon 18:26, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Question
In which seconds of the SECOND OPENINNG DID YOU SEE fORCAS?
 * He's not in the second opening (see here). --FOMA (Talk) 22:34, April 26, 2011 (UTC)

sups
hey FOMA, i'm toriko wiki's admin. pleased to meet ya. anyway, i just came to say hi --Zangetsukakashi 22:08, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

main admin
I was wondering who the main admins are and was wondering If I could become one to. I watch many anime and read many magas but I think I will get back to one and am still making a dicision which one. so If it is gonna be beelzebub (I actually enjoyed the episodes I watched before). I worked on many anime wikias I want to become a admin so can I become one or do I have to proof myself if os what do I have to do. I am even reading the beelzebub manga again. So could you just make a list of other admins and a list of things to do. Reply soon please.

Characters
on the characters page there are some characters that don't have a page.If oyu want I can make a page for those characters. Please reply and for the previos talk obave here the main admins)

How
How do I reply to the Messages on my Talk Page?

Pictures
This is not about this wikia but since you are a fan of many anime then you can help me everytime i put pictures on the wikia it goes down i have -3 pictures can you help me?

Editing
Hi, thank you for greeting me! I would like to help with some pages which are really old uploading some photos and to renovate charachter pages. But I need some explanation about how the edit tools work.
 * Thank you for answering ^^. I was planning on editing, and i wanted to start editing the character page, but i don't understand how to put new images. I mean, i remove the old ones to put the new fitting with the new character images in character pages, but when i put them, i don't manage to put them in the center of the table, they're always too much on left or on the right. I'm noob so please be patient :O Stormbrigader 15:46, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

new pages
Hey I dont really know who the admins are but since I saw you editing many things I cam here. I cant really remember if it was you or somebody else but Since I started watching and reading beelzebub again I thought why not help the wiki. So just letting you guys know that you will see me more on the wikia and the chat btw why wonty you guys come to the chat. I think ill start with those needed pages.

Ok hope to see you guys more often.

Btw you guys should really come to the chat.

Introduction
Greetings, I go by C. Phantom and I'm an admin and bureaucrat of Kuroshitsuji Wiki. A healthy suggestion is for you to edit the commmunity section of the sidebar and link to administrators so I and other users can locate you more efficiently.

I have a question to ask of you and that's how did you manage to sync your wiki to Animepedia from what I've seen of Template:Quote. You must be busy with your wiki but if you can help me, that would be very much appreciated. Please respond on my talk page.

I've also made a Template:Color for this wiki if you don't mind. In addition, if you need any help like for instance making a poll on your homepage or other special templates, don't hesitate to ask. I would also contribute to this wiki in my free time. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 00:55, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and its a pity that wasn't able to contact Dantman before he decided to stop sync queue. I suppose Kuroshitsuji Wiki will have to remain like that for now. You should drop by Kuroshitsuji Wiki on your free time. And the Kuroshitsuji manga is awesome if youre up to date with the latest chapters. Not that Im prompting to be an admin here but unfortunately I cant help you with the community section and other areas.

Ill help you with the other templates though; you can browse around Kuroshitsuji Wiki's templates and if theres anything you want/need to add to Beelzebub Wiki, Ill be glad to make the templates for you. And during my free time, Ill be sure to add the summaries for the chapters and info to the characters since I major at that in Kuroshitsuji Wiki.

Are you the only admin here though? {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 02:53, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its no problem. I noticed that this wiki has yet to have references/citations. Although I seldom do so, when I get to the chapter summaries, Ill have to leave references in order to reuse it for the characters' plot sections later. I hope you dont mind. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 02:46, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Ive completed the summary and references for Decapitation Island (chapter). Sorry if its too verbose or wordy but I tend to add a lot of description. If you have any specific needs or problems please state them. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 01:36, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Its ok. And I agree too that the references section is not necessary but Im only temporarily adding them now so when I edit the character's page or arc's page, Ill just copy and paste the references over so itll be easier. Dont worry Ill delete the references from the chapters when I get to it. And ok, Ill use the hepburn romanization.

About making it collapsible I used to have the same problem for my wiki. Fortunately, we discovered a way through here. Follow what Sovq said. And if its a bit confusing Ill help out so dont worry. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 02:11, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

For us it took a period of approximately one day for it to activate. Im not sure if its the same for all wikis though. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 23:13, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I'm almost done copying the template over here from the Enigma Wiki, but I still have one big problem. The [show] button is stuck together with the "Manga" heading in the box. I want to try to move the button to the right like this infobox on the Bleach Wiki. I'm also hoping to get the word "show" to have the typical colours of a word link. Do you know how to fix this? Thank you very much for your help, by the way. -- FOMA (Talk) 04:57, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

To be honest I have never encountered the problem of the word "show" to have the color white. But perhaps if you can show me the template your working on right now I can try to tweak it a bit. Once you show me that I will also try my best with the position of the "show". If Im unable to fix it dont worry I will ask for help with the technical users in wikia and they will eventually find a solution.

And your welcome; it's no trouble. {{User:Chibiphantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 03:48, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ikaruga
In chapter 125 page 14-15, Saotome said that Ikaruga Nazuna is now going by the name Ikagura Suiten. It looks like Nazuna and Suiten are the same character going by different names and not two different characters.--Masgrande 18:18, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Locations
I want this page to be deleted.I can create pages related to locations afterwards when I find good time.Stone Roger 10:23, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * It is u r wish.I would rather prefer it to be deleted.I will create them later.Stone Roger 12:20, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Arcs
Arcs are somewhat wrongly mentioned in articles.I think u can help me in changing?Stone Roger 13:11, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I know how op wiki defines arcs.The list is simple for one piece series they go according to the situations.For example:The first arc of op deals with Morgan, so it is Morgan arc.I will fix them now a litttle on the wiki.Stone Roger 04:57, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Featured articles
I want u to add Featired articles to wiki.It may be cool.I think u understood it.Stone Roger 16:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Character Page
The character page's character images don't fit with the ones in the articles. Could you help me in putting the right ones ^^ Stormbrigader 09:20, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Nono you didn't got that. I meant we should have substitued the old pictures (there are some with those number on the up-left side or bad quality ones), with new ones. Now i manage to substitute the one in the topics, but i cant' modify the ones in the character page. So we should fix in the all character's page, not in the topics of the respectful characters, you understand what I mean? Stormbrigader 09:25, October 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yes i mean that xD, i can provide the images, make some screens from the episode so that we can make substitutions, what you think? Stormbrigader 14:51, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Profile Images
Profile image for oga: Yeah I am using the plain background of images for Major characters.For example this image:.Stone Roger 11:01, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

I will follow you. Stone Roger 18:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * OGA AND FURUICHI + File:Beelzebub_2-620x.jpg + SCARY OGA + File:Beelzebub_Oga_Tatsumi4.png.

Twitter
Hey, I'm Bereisgreat. You might've seen my around sometime on several anime wikis. I want to ask a huge favor. You know about the @WikiaAnime twitter feed that appears on nearly all anime wiki's, but what you might not know, is that I help tweeting those tweets. Kate.moon contacted me about it, but it's pretty hard managing with just the two of us. So we've been searching for other anime wiki admins to help out and so I ended up with you.

The only thing you need to do, is tweet as much as you can in the usual WikiaAnime style and that's it. You'd really help us with it and we hope we can work together. Kate.moon will explain the further details, if necessary. Let me know what you think :) 19:58, October 19, 2011 (UTC)

Have you thought about it yet? 16:29, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Great! That's awesome! Kate will come back to you as soon as possible. 22:38, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, We've talked before about @WikiaAnime Twitter :) Thanks a lot for agreeing to help out with the Twitter account. Bereis great has been totally amazing with his tweeting and it's helped us get even more followers. I will actually be focusing more on social media from here on out so don't worry if you can't tweet very often.

Basically what we're trying to do is feature Wikia's amazing anime community with all of its amazing anime/manga wikis. You and Bereisgreat are really valuable because I know you guys are involved with a lot of them and know what's relevant and interesting right now, which I also try to keep up with.

I will tweet at LEAST once a day so don't feel like you HAVE to do one every day but if you see something particularly interesting that you really want to feature, please send it out on the account. Bereisgreat has been really great about following the tone of @WikiaAnime and I'm sure you'll find it easy to do also. Let me know if you need access to a bit.ly account (to shorten the links).

Wikia Anime Twitter is a really important project for me so I'm really excited to have the Community help out!

If you have any questions, just leave me a message. And I'd be happy to chat with you live also.

Let me know! (talk) 23:50, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

FOMA? Do you still want to help us with the Twitter project or have you changed your mind? Cause you still haven't responded to Kate and we could use your help. 18:39, November 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, I understand that. Thanks for at least letting me know. 16:09, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Blog?
Dude, we need to set up a blog in this wikia. That way we could get more viewers and new wikia users who come to see our predictions, chapter reviews, etc. We need to make this wiki more exciting. Kuriani 14:18, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Pillar Information
All right. Give me a note when I can start editing again. I'll likely do edits whenever a new chapter is released. -=KAG=-My Pride 16:20, November 3, 2011 (UTC)

Beel and title
Hey, how do you get the anime images of beel and the episode title? ManikWorld 16:26, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Maintenance
Hi. I'm new to this wiki and I have tagged a few pages for deletion for several reasons (some had no content, some are broken redirects, and some are not needed). Can you please delete them? Thank you. --

Kazo
Hi, my name is Kazo Kiisume. I'm from Japan, I just edit Hilda profile about her age and height. I want to discuss with you about Oga Tatsumi. :)

Fight Summaries
Should we publish Fight Summaries? (e.g. Oga Tatsumi VS Kanzaki Hajime) :)

Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, FOMA!! :D Enjoy your christmas!!

Trailer page
Hi, why is the trailer page deleted? Is that not allowed? I thought it's a good way of showing people who might be new to the anime to have a little look at it.thx. Koosha 05:05, December 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. ^^ Thanks for clearing it up. :) Koosha 03:33, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Fixed Editings
Hi :D I did some editings some time ago, and they were fixed, but i'm absolutely certain they're correct. For example, i fixed many times Zubub Spell or Zebel spell in Zebul Spell (because in japanese they say zeburu not zebubu nor zeberu) but it was re-fixed many other times and i re-re-fixed it now, same goes fore the Blast and the emblems, so i thought you could try making things to not change :D

Oh, i also added japanese lectures for Oga's techniques, but speaking of the Black Techs, since it is a fan translation of Ankoku Butou, wouldn't it be better if we say Ankoku butou and then Blach techs in the translation like i did with the Zebul techniques? (same goes for Kunieda)

P.s. One last thing xD i know i'm annoying but i think we should change (again i know) Oga's page Image, since he looks so sad in that pic, it doesn't even resemble him xD, so if you change it it would be great, and therefore change his mini-pic in the general charachter image :D

Answer me soon! Stormbrigader 18:08, December 29, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I'm glad then :D I'll read the section as you'll make it, and it's also good to make Ankokubuto one word :D i din't noticed it was a type of dance the only differeces are the last two kanji.

About the black techs i had doubts because i noticed that in the last chapters, the translators adopted some of our terminology so i think that somehow our work influences the chapters we read, so if we change, also chapters could change so if we write Ankokubuto people could get confused but since we write Black Techs in the translation note that's fine and if you agree then there's no problem! Stormbrigader 11:26, December 30, 2011 (UTC)

It Works
I fixed that error with the toggle. Seems that I gave you not quite everything to activate the template. But it works right now, so you can undo the rights right now.  KidProdigy  (Userpage ⁝ Talk) 17:50, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for giving me a warm welcome !! I'd surely ask for help if I get stuck anywhere. :) Winterdawn 13:44, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Manga to Anime replacements and icons
I noticed that in many cases, you uploaded screenshots of characters' faces from the manga, but then you re-uploaded over top of the image with how they appear in the anime. (example: File:Honoka_Furuichi.png)

I think both appearances are valuable, and would like to re-upload the original versions (with "manga" in the file name) and include them so people know how the appearance evolved over time, from BW to color and simple to detailed.

All I can think to do is save them and then upload them under a new name. Do you have any more efficient ideas?

Also noticed (like here and here we have a lot of thumbnail icons calmly depicting character's faces uploaded by User:Mikisi. Do you know where they were originally in use? If we're no longer using them in a list format, I would like to add them to each characters' pages. What do you think would be the ideal spot? I usually pick 'appearance' if nothing else stands out, since it's so small. +y 21:27, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, to tell the truth I was a bit distracted and overlooked the disambig things at the top which look glaringly obvious today, so I understand now. For the galleries, for a separate page do you mean like it would be Tatsumi Oga/Gallery? Can I make pages like this for every character and move the gallery coding box there and just provide a link to it in the section instead? Would it be okay to include every image of a character on the wiki in these gallery pages since it wouldn't burden their main page? For example could I make Hilda/Gallery and Aoi Kunieda/Gallery and put the pictures you removed from their main pages into a gallery there? I added a Category:Galleries to Oga's which someone made in 2011, it would be an easy way to keep track of them. +y 00:26, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Q about censorship
Was reading:
 * "There are policies set in place for extremely bad language and pornographic content. However, all photos pertaining to the series and/or the Wiki will remain uncensored for encyclopedic purposes."

I just went and watched the OVA (and I'm glad I didn't watch it first, might have spoiled the surprises in the earlier episodes) and I'm not sure, but I think they put a lot more focus on jokes related to Beel's baby bits (comments like "they're on his head" or Takayuki making comments related to it.

Would it be appropriate to post one of those pictures to illustrate how ridiculously graphic they are about that? Or should we avoid doing so? +y 00:34, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm to be honest I'm not really sure, it could clutter character articles, or just a mention Beel's page or the OVA in particular. +y@talk 12:07, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Chapter 123...
Hi me again :D, i noticed that some people when editing, quoted the chapters in which that thing or action appears or is committed by one of the characters, such as "Hilda in chapter 121 was kidnapped" or "Basilisk was defeated in chapter???". They even added it to former editing, i mean, they didn't edit nothing, they just added that that thing happened in that numbered chapter. I think it would be better to just quote the occasion in which things happen in the manga, such as "in the fight with..." or "when meeting..." rather than quoting the chapter don't you think? If you agree, can you do something to correct this? Excuse me for annoying you D: Stormbrigader 19:45, January 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes that's what I meant :D, as i will see something like that i will edit it with no doubts :D Stormbrigader 14:54, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Logo
Hey. I have a question: Were you the one who edited this Wiki's logo? I have been looking for help in where and how to design logos for another wiki I contribute to and this wiki's logo is superb. if you have any info about logos, that would be great. Thanks. --{{User:C. Phantom/Sign2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 01:51, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help; I see I have come to the right person. My request on the Logo Creation Wiki is here. If you're willing to provide the logo, that would be great as well. But if you can't, I understand. --{{User:C. Phantom/Sig2|{{SUBST:{1| }}}} 02:04, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Request
dude..can u send me beelzebub episode 28, 29 and 30? i need 2 kno more..send 2 my email..my email is:muraa.cold.net@hotmail.com

Re: Welcome
Thanks! I couldn't make those two images line up right for the anime/manga differences for episode 51.

Anime and Manga Differences
Oh yes, I having trouble making side by side comparison images for the episode wiki pages. For some reason, they just stacked up at the side and disrupts the headers. This image is what I'm used to doing for my wiki community's episode wiki pages. Please see a link to the episode wiki page on Anime Vice. Takashichea 17:27, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Episodes list
I notice there's a list of the episodes at anime. I was wondering, to spread out the editing, do you think making an episodes page would be useful? Also I notice things like episode 1 and such direct to the actual titles of the episodes. Do you know how we figure out how to translate the words in any kind of official format in case there are disputes? Like I know some subbing groups translate it differently. Do we go with the way crunchyroll translates the titles in terms of words and capitalization due to their being the official distributor? Oh and I hope you don't mind but a lot of the comments on your talk weren't signed so I filled in that info by checking the histories. Since it's getting large, any interest in archiving? +y@talk 12:29, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Takahashis
I noticed how Kazutoshi+Takahashi Kazutoshi and Yoshiko+Takahashi Yoshiko redirected to Kazutoshi Takahashi and Yoshiko Takahashi. I am wondering if you knew if these were characters from Beelzebub? Someone tagged these redirects for deletion. Were they pages you were planning to make? +y@talk 14:41, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Also just looked in Candidates for Deletion. There was a bunch of 'teimo tech' redirects you created pointing to a page I don't think was actually created yet. I made a stub page at that location we can expand, and removed the 'delete' templates from the redirects. There was this guy who I think was using script to tag unused redirects automatically.

Another issue is all the pages that point to Ryūichi_Sanada. These initially pointed to a blank page and were tagged for deletion, but someone created it with a picture. I'm going to assume it is of the person even though the one who made it reverted it, I put it back. I'm going to untag those because I think since you made the redirects this must be a real person in Beelzebub who just hasn't gotten a page yet.

Actually based in good faith, I'll make stubs for the other Takas you pointed to so that people who know who they are can expand them, this should prevent the redirects you prepared from getting tagged again by bots. +y@talk 15:47, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, didn't know Ryuji was diff (assumed was another mispell disambig) will fix. After creating the stubs and removing the delete tag from the redirects, and moving 1 essay some guy wrote to the watercooler/forum, the deletion tag thing is empty now. +y@talk 16:47, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Volumes
Ah okay, I thought they just hadn't been updated... although isn't it likely they will end up naming episodes the same thing too once the anime catches up? Figured may as well do it in advance. Another issue is, chronologically speaking didn't the names of the chapters actually precede the naming of the tankobons? +y@talk 17:17, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm, the chapters usually have extensive plot summaries, volume pages are mostly just lists... I guess it just seemed like standard format that volumes were named later after one of their included chapters, so the smaller volume cat having the parentheses seemed like it'd be more uniform if they all had it. So far 3/8 in the cat have it (Honmakai (volume), I Picked Up the Demon Lord (volume), Saint Ishiyama Academy (volume)). +y@talk 17:28, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, did I end up making Volume 12/Volume 13/Volume 14 okay? They were missing and I made a couple mistakes filling out info at first but hope I caught everything. +y@talk 20:02, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Father/mother
Was wondering, for Oga's Father/Oga's Mother, even if the apostrophe's after the s (still think it looks odd since there are 2 children who're Ogas...) what about lowercsing father/mother since they aren't proper nouns? Unless of course they were referred to like a title in the credits or something is all I can figure.

Alternatively, perhaps Mr. Oga and Mrs. Oga? Though for latter I'm not sure if they're married... +y@talk 18:24, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Visual editor
I edit via plain source code, TBH I'm what that is... just checked preferences and it says it's off. Is that usually what I see on other wikis where there's a bunch of complex HTML in the source that clutters doing edits? +y@talk 20:18, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I don't like the hi-software thing. Some wikias have been getting this 'message wall' feature which is a really confusing talk page replacer. When possible I also prefer to turn off the thing with Bold/Italics since it's possible to accidentally click it and introduce undesired code. +y@talk 21:21, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Subs
Anyway yeah sorry about the subtitles, didn't think about... this is softsubbed so I should be able to turn them off and re-add them cleaner. Do you know if there is a way to upload the cleaner ones overtop of the old ones? I'd like to do that to keep filenames the same. Otherwise should I do them under new names and then tag the subbed ones for deletion? Not sure. +y@talk 20:35, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * K will try doing this upload-over thing. +y@talk 21:21, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Pillars
I was wondering, since Category:Behemoth's 34 Pillar Division is so large, I noticed on the main article they are split into Barons/Generals. Do you think Category:Barons+Category:Generals would be good subcategories at some point? +y@talk 22:09, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, created them as you named. About the main page, I noticed the list of generals is in alph order, but the barons and jab's assistants aren't. Was there something wrong with alphabetizing them? I was wondering if the revert all changes was due to linking to the 5 guys whose spelling hadn't confirmed. As long as I assure they remain unlinked from the article page would it be okay to restore the other changes like the alphabetizing, and bullets>numbered, and tallying the numbers of the generals' subordinates? +y@talk 13:48, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Satura
it was np man, im going to do satura tommorow, i might ask for a little help with that if thats cool with u

Disambiguation categories
These are an easy way to keep track of the redirects that exist, like if somebody made a new article on a volume/chapter/episode but forgot to redirect its number to there.

Also: the reason I did that was because the manga/anime pages are very large and hi-data, viewing the list of what is present on the wiki in category fashion allows people to do it in a less resource-intensive way.

At a glance, linking someone to the page would provide (via the three-columns) a single-page glance at the content of the wiki, like if we wanted to show a screenshot or something. To know how many chapters are done on the manga page requires a lot of scrolling and stuff, and there'd be no telling in the future whether or not the chapter names'd been properly targetted to their new titles. +y@talk 12:02, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Taniyurikai
I noticed on this page you said they have the same names as in MariaSama. Do you know when this is said? I heard the red-haired girl called Shino, but other than "Onee-sama" I didn't hear them addressed. Do they return and do so in ep 52, or are they possibly listed this way in the credits? Unfortunately the Yami article for the Foetida lacks pictures for these three, so I am unable to even match up who is who. While I wait for new Beelzebub episodes to come out, perhaps this is a good time to watch the anime? (44 eps + live film yay) and go expand that wiki, which seems to be only in beginning stages. +y@talk 15:54, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Ah okay that makes sense. It's weird but even though I looked up the missing surnames, didn't notice the shino-Yoshino match. BTW how come you removed mention of the 13 other members and the pics of them? It's not just the 3 members even if they are the most notable ones who are named and have pages. +y@talk 17:15, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Numbers
Well, I'd probably say Naruto could make 'at least' 4 clones. I think that's how it was phrased on the page. Counting them at least provides a minimum. Anyway they are known members, even if they are unnamed members. Sort of like we do know about the lower-tier members of the pillars even if we don't know their names. I couldn't hear any dialogue to go off of from the sisters, closest I heard was one of the Red Tail saying 'a bunch' or something like that. +y@talk 17:28, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

This is kind of confusing, why is it not relevant if it's not phrased? It's still visible. If nobody ever mentions Chiaki's hair is black, should we avoid describing the colour of her hair because it's not verbalized? Oh, also since you put the 3 girls' char pages into Taniyurikai cat, would it be okay to make a Red Tail cat? At least for the 5 current members. If so, I would like your feedback on whether or not to include Aoi or Misaki. I'm not sure since they're former members. +y@talk 17:42, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hm, can we change to 'relevant' then? They do sorta have distinct meanings. Even so... the sheer numbers were relevant to the confrontation since the members of the RT expressed they were scared of the fight due to being outnumbered. When it was just the three at first they didn't appear very intimidated. +y@talk 17:48, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

I agree seeing something doesn't make it relevant, that's why I explained, it's since the pure numbers made the Red Tail members feel intimidated. I'm aware her hair color's in the inbobox, I guess the question is, why mention information like that? Has Chiaki's hair color affected the plot in any way? +y@talk 18:01, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

I realize it can be useful to mention character's hair colors even though we have pictures depicting it. Question was asked hypothetically because the Red Tails being outnumbered three to one was being demeaned as relevant info simply due to not being verbally addressed, which was why the hair example.

By not mentioning the other members, it's like the Red Tails outnumbered them 5 to 3 during the encounter, which they didn't. Considering the 3 members got their own char pages, a blurb about how much backup they had (wasn't proposing to give each flunky their own page, lol) didn't seem out of scope.

If not on the gang's article, it can't be mentioend on Komainu-sama is Watching? It just seems like printing the number helps to save the reader time of having to manually count the gang themselves. Also noticed that link to anime episode debue was removed. If there's a problem with this working in the template can we not mention the episode title outside it in the main text? +y@talk 21:58, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Red Tail
Also, TBH I found Aoi's mention of 300 people coming to be very surprising. Until then I had assumed the Red Tails to be a pretty small group. I'm not sure what the population of the Ishikawa school is, but probably a significant chunk (half, third?). There's mention of the 360 flunkies of the pillar generals (15x24) and the Red Tails alone are almost enough to counter that 1 to 1. File:Rt-pose.jpg gives some sense of size with ~20 girls watching the main trio, but I definitely didn't get the impression of 300 prior to ep 51, did you? +y@talk 22:08, February 3, 2012 (UTC)

Kindness
Thank you for the kind welcome you have given to me, Jikojan 03:19, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Shii
Why was the Shii Family article deleted? I wrote everything down according to what was on chapter 119? -The Forgotten Beast 21:09, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't mind, I was just wondering if my article was incorrect. -The Forgotten Beast 21:33, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

MK5, Rokkisei and Red Tail categories?
I noticed since there was a Category:Tōhōshinki with only 4 members, would it be okay to make a three more categories for the 5 clueless guys, 6 holy knights and 7 girls in the tail? +y@talk 19:34, February 14, 2012 (UTC)